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[HO] Athearn Prototypes
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Mark Mathu
2003-10-21 00:02:18 UTC
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Here's a list of Athearn models and their corresponding prototypes (if any)
that I am aware of. Can you help fill in the blanks?
http://www.athearn.com/

#1100 40' Boxcar - Work Train
?

#1110 50' Flat Car - Work Train
?

#1120 50' Gondola - Work Train
?

#1130 SD Tank Car - Work Train
?

#1140 Standard Baggage - Work Train
?

#1150 Standard RPO - Work Train
?

#1194 Rotary Snowplow
Lima-Hamilton as built for UP, Soo, and CRI&P

#1200 40' AAR Box Car
1942 AAR as built for Soo & IC

#1249 Cupola Caboose
ATSF 1750-1874 (1929), 1875-1978 (1930), 1979-2000 (1931), and 2001-2200
(1942).

#1274 Work Caboose / Crane Tender

#1285 Bay Window Caboose
PC&F built for SP class C-40-4

#1299 Heavy Duty Flat Car
CNW welded car

#1305 50' Double Door Box Car
SP class A-50-12; CNW 51196-51998, model has only 14 panels instead of the 15
of the prototype

#1309 Double Door Box Car
?

#1329 50' Plug Door Box Car
amalgam of ACF details

#1336 50' Ob Plug Door Box Car
amalgam of PRR X58 / Soo / Berwick / CB&Q cars

#1349 40' Flat Car
Rutland

#1399 50' Flat Car
MP 8000-8099 converted for TOFC service with 13 stake pockets

#1449 40' Pulpwood Car
MP

#1480 50' Autoloader
?

#1499 Three Dome Tank Car
amalgam of various parts

#1520 62' Tank Car
ACF early 1960s, one of the first ICC-111As

#1549 Chemical Tank Car
Similar to GATX

#1570 Single Dome Tank Car
GATX / SP class O-50-13

#1599 40' Reefer - Steel Side
PFE class R-40-23

#1624 50' Reefer - Smooth Side
PFE class R-50-6

#1631 50' Reefer - Outside Braced
PFE class R-70-11

#1647 50' Gondola
B&O prototype designed for coil steel service, thus the extra rows of rivets
on the sides. Prototypes are the normal 52.5', and the outermost ribs are
not located properly either. DRGW, GTW, NW, and WM have similar cars.

#1659 50' Covered Gondola
?

#1699 200 Ton Crane
Bucyrus-Erie

#1749 40' Quad Hopper
1928 ARA used by B&O MP, MILW, B&M, C&O (with Andrews trucks and peaked
ends), Erie, New Haven.

#1774 40' Stock Car
UP class S-40-10/11/12?

#1780 Streamline Baggage
?

#1790 Streamline Diner
?

#1800 Streamline RPO
?

#1810 Streamline Coach
?

#1820 Streamline Vista Dome
?

#1830 Streamline Observation
?

#1840 Standard RPO
?

#1850 Standard Coach (Round Roof)
?

#1854 Standard Coach (Cler. Roof)
?

#1860 Standard Pullman
?

#1870 Standard Observation
?

#1880 Standard Baggage
?

#1890 Standard Diner
?

#1900 ACF Centerflow Hopper
ACF 5250 cu.ft.

#1950 40' Ob Hi Cube Box Car
PC&F for SP 659100-659111; SSW series 36014-36126, both class B-70-36.

#1960 40' Plug Door Hi Cube Box Car
UP class B-50-4 appliance car

#1969 86' High Cube Box Car - 4 Door
Greenville

#1985 86' High Cube Box Car - 8 Door
Thrall

#2000 85' Piggy Back Flat Car
Pullman-Standard 1960

#2015 85' All Purpose Flat Car
Shortened from prototype 89'-4" to use the underframe parts from the 85' PS
piggyback flat

#2090 40' Grain Box Car
UP class BF-50-3

#5050 50' Single Door Box Car
1942 AAR: SP class B-50-22

#5070 50' OB DD Modern Box Car
FMC's pre-Railbox lumber box built for SP/SSW circa early 70s, but also for a
few other roads (MILW, MNS). The roof should not overhang the ends.

#5200 40' Reefer - Wood Side
Similar to PFE class R-40-24

#5230 40' Box Car - Wood Sides
similar to NP 40500-40917 built 1938, model is 6" shorter

#5300 54' PS Covered Hopper
PS-2 4740 cu.ft.

#5360 Wide Vision Caboose
International Car Company built for RI in the late fifties using the
underframes of old wood cabooses

#5400 34' Two Bay Hopper - Offset Side
1940's AAR?

#5420 34' Two Bay Hopper - Composite Side
1944 War Emergency

#5440 34' Two Bay Hopper - Ribbed Side
1940's?

#5460 57' Mechanical Reefer
PFE class R-70-20, also used by ATSF(SFRC), BAR, MILW, GN(WFEX), NP(NPM),
BN(BNFE)

#5520 50' Single Door Railbox Box Car
RBOX 10001-10599 class XAF10 built ACF 11/74 - 2/75 except for the roof which
is X-panel, should be diagonal-panel

#5900 Husky Stack Well Car
Gunderson

#5910 Maxi III 5-Unit Well Car
Gunderson Maxi-III
James D Thompson
2003-10-21 01:12:02 UTC
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Post by Mark Mathu
Here's a list of Athearn models and their corresponding prototypes (if any)
that I am aware of. Can you help fill in the blanks?
http://www.athearn.com/
#5400 34' Two Bay Hopper - Offset Side
1940's AAR?
AAR 1935 standard twin.
Post by Mark Mathu
#5440 34' Two Bay Hopper - Ribbed Side
1940's?
1930s Unitcast ribside twin, but without the Unitcast parts. The
peaked end version is imaginary.

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me
2003-10-21 05:20:15 UTC
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Post by Mark Mathu
Here's a list of Athearn models and their corresponding prototypes (if any)
that I am aware of. Can you help fill in the blanks?
http://www.athearn.com/
I'm pretty sure the work train cars are the same as the regular ones, so
they're
not a different prototype. Just another paint job.
JCunington
2003-10-21 17:16:16 UTC
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I read somewhere (R.M.R.?) that the Athearn streamlined passenger cars are
loosely based on Santa Fe cars but do not strictly follow the prototypes. Not
sure about the heavyweights.


Jay
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Gareth Quale
2003-10-21 22:58:43 UTC
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Since the thread is turning to passenger car prototypes, there is good info
in a list assembled by Andy Harmon available at
http://www.trainweb.org/jssand/Protot/All.htm

As for the original question of Athearn freight prototypes, the folks at the
RPI club - the NEB&W - have a very thorough list covering Athearn and
several other manufacturers. It can be found through Google or try
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/rolling-stock/Kits/Kit-Guide.asp
Unfortunately for casual browsers, they have converted it to a pay site.

But jumping back to the passenger car prototype subject detour - has anyone
got a reference for the specific prototypes for the recent Walthers
streamlined car releases? Gary Q
Post by JCunington
I read somewhere (R.M.R.?) that the Athearn streamlined passenger cars are
loosely based on Santa Fe cars but do not strictly follow the prototypes. Not
sure about the heavyweights.
Jay
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Wireheads of the world, unite!
Mark Mathu
2003-10-23 02:15:07 UTC
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I'm pretty sure the work train cars are the same as the regular ones, so
they're not a different prototype. Just another paint job.
Thanks. I don't have any of those models on my layout where I could compare
them in detail, but they sure looked the same to me from what I saw at the
hobby shop. I was wondering if that was the case.

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